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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:25 PM
But that doesn't make them the opposing gender
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:25 PM
If you genuinely feel like your gender is feminine it is, regardless of your sex.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:25 PM
you know gender is just a label and the way that you would express yourself and would like others to refer to you, right?
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entertain,me 😎
You can still be a man and act feminine just like a woman can act masculine
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
Its not how you act, its how you FEEL.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
there is no magic beyond that
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
A label based of a physicality we can see
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
I can act sad and that doesnt make me sad.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
Men have balls
11:26 PM
Women have titries
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
But if i feel sad, that makes me sad.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
you are talking about sex
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
Women can give birth
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Men cannot
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
what do you think the difference between sex and gender is?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
It's just objectively true
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entertain,me 😎
Women have titries
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
Thats really a bad definition, i know men with more tits that many women... (edited)
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
what do you think the difference between sex and gender is?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
What is your point?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
Women can give birth
@entertain,me 😎 - jump what if i'm infertile?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
I already said gender was an example
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:26 PM
What is your point?
@entertain,me 😎 - jump because you seem to not get it
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entertain,me 😎
I already said gender was an example
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:27 PM
Whats the difference between sex and gender?
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entertain,me 😎
Men have balls
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:27 PM
Let me say something, they are different things because they describe two different concepts Are you saying that there is no concept of gender?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:27 PM
Regardless of whatever yall may think, you may believe whatever you wanna believe however i operate based if logic and what I can see
11:27 PM
And with that
11:27 PM
Conversation over
11:28 PM
For good this time
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:28 PM
gotcha, you don't get the difference then
11:28 PM
just as i thought
11:28 PM
good night!
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:28 PM
It isn't night
11:28 PM
Atleast not here
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:28 PM
OBJECTIVELY OR SUBJECTIVELY
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entertain,me 😎
Regardless of whatever yall may think, you may believe whatever you wanna believe however i operate based if logic and what I can see
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:28 PM
You are using logic over your definitions, we are using logic over ours, we reach different conclussions using logic.
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:28 PM
Gender describes a different thing from sex Sex is physical Gender is mental Is it a bit silly to care about mental things? Up to you, but that doesn't make the concept not exist @entertain,me 😎
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
You are using logic over your definitions, we are using logic over ours, we reach different conclussions using logic.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:29 PM
You logic concluded a feeling is more concrete than a very visible physicality between individuals regardless of gender
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entertain,me 😎
You logic concluded a feeling is more concrete than a very visible physicality between individuals regardless of gender
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:29 PM
Dude
11:29 PM
gender is not physical (edited)
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:29 PM
again no understanding of the difference between sex and gender
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
You are just defining gender differently than people in the associated community You. Need. To. Understand. That. Its just like how you were using unconscious wrong earlier, your using the words differently
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
So what makes a man an man and what makes a woman a woman
11:30 PM
If you can't answer that
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entertain,me 😎
So what makes a man an man and what makes a woman a woman
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
Godo
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
You're simply wrong
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
Btw this is off topic, not to minimod but yk
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
Can we agree that sex is the physical characteristics and gender is the identity mind characteristic usually correlated to sex?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:30 PM
Adios yall, Conversation was fun or whatnot
11:31 PM
Didn't really learn anything, but that's ok
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:31 PM
we can tell
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That’s kinda your problem homie
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entertain,me 😎
Didn't really learn anything, but that's ok
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:31 PM
You refused.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:31 PM
None of you were able to answer mybquestion but quick to tell me I'm incapable of understanding
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
it's hard to learn anything if it's all ouput no input
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
That's all I need to know own to Judge you type of character (edited)
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Safe to say we tried
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
But I'm not upset in the least bit
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
You really could have learnt so much if you just listened... And i really mean a lot... Not about tulpas and gender either...
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
It was fun
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entertain,me 😎
None of you were able to answer mybquestion but quick to tell me I'm incapable of understanding
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
We answered you, it wasnt what you wanted to hear
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
Adios
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
Byee
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:32 PM
Who is we
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YOU didn't answer my question
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None of you did
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
it's hard to learn anything if it's all ouput no input
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:33 PM
They read the sha256 digest of the input and try to answer using that lol
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:33 PM
It just went roundabout
11:33 PM
What is sha256
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entertain,me 😎
It just went roundabout
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:33 PM
Yes it did...
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:33 PM
Another assumption of ignorance
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I don't even know what that is
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Nor will I ever
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Bye bye 😋
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entertain,me 😎
What is sha256
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:35 PM
It was just a joke
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:35 PM
An inside joke you'd assume I'd understand
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Meaning you didn't want me to know
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entertain,me 😎
An inside joke you'd assume I'd understand
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:35 PM
It was not directed to you
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:35 PM
Regardless it was fun
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Then I apologize
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:35 PM
I didnt asume you would understand, i assumed kitkat would
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:36 PM
dw i did
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:36 PM
🙂
11:36 PM
im glad, it was funny
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 11:37 PM
pretty funny, yeah
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 11:37 PM
Someone upset, gotta add the curse words
@entertain,me 😎 - jump by that logic I’m always upset. Also, fuck you
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berockly (TTG)
Btw this is off topic, not to minimod but yk
Tewi: I appreciate someone reminding people to stay on-topic to the channel (or to move to another) when it gets out of hand, suggestions are always fair game. (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 12:30 AM
Feelings on "ethical issues" regarding tulpas?
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Tewi: You're looking for #tulpa-discussion , this channel is for "simple" answerable questions. (The previous discussion really didn't belong here) (edited)
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What happens when a tulpa system experiences ego death (or any other plural system)?
11:03 AM
Do the host and their headmates have different egos? And is it possible that only the ego of one person "dies" while the ego of the others remains unharmed? (I'm sorry if I mixing up some terms, English isn't my native language)
11:05 AM
And would there be a difference between endogenic and traumagenic systems?
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Tewi: If by ego death you include the lesser, self-inflicted kind, then yes it is per-systemmate, and (in the very unhealthy systems where this has taken place) tulpas have permanently taken over the host role in their stead. (edited)
11:24 AM
If you mean ego death from taking serious drugs though, I have no idea - I imagine all sense of identity is lost for the whole system? Since it would be the brain losing the ability to even feel a sense of self. (edited)
11:25 AM
I know nothing about "ego death" in that sense, if it can be permanent or only while under the effects of the drug and so on. People have definitely reported feeling like they became one with their tulpas while on hallucinogenic drugs and such, but only for the duration of their effects.
11:25 AM
Tulpamancy includes enough complex possible experiences without getting drugs involved, though.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 6:30 PM
Ego death (referring to losing all perception of self) most likely cant be permanent unless you physically get a brain injury. The lesser self-inflicted kind you are talking about probably has nothing to do with the other one (is likely a completely different process with some similar claimed results). (edited)
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Electoral Volts 3/5/2023 1:37 AM
Long time listener first time caller. Hope this is the right place for this type of question. I'm noticing a lets say semi-voluntary hand/arm twitch while passively forcing that usually correlates to head pressure. It's definitely visually noticeable, but I don't see many people mentioning it in the forums. Has anyone experienced something like this before?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/5/2023 2:05 AM
If you have involuntary twitching you should probably talk to a doctor about it. I dont know what semi-voluntary is, although i kinda think i know the feeling you are trying to convey with that word...
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Electoral Volts 3/5/2023 2:20 AM
I get the "doctor" route, but it's heavily related to forcing and if I'm not it doesn't ever happen. Sounds like it's pretty uncommon.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/5/2023 2:23 AM
Sounds like suggestion, maybe stress, maybe a combination. I also woudnt say its heavily related just from your experience as you are biased (see pigeon superstition experiment).
2:23 AM
Do you mind explaining the "semi-voluntary"? (edited)
2:24 AM
I woudnt recommend you assigning random weird stuff to your tulpa as that can end up developing into unhealthy behavior...
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